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Friday, June 26, 2009

From NPR's report this morning on a radical proposal to give the government the power to lock people up indefinitely without trial, we learn that it is only 'some liberals' who object:

Some conservatives say it will turn the battlefield into CSI: Afghanistan, requiring soldiers to collect evidence as they're being shot at. Some liberals say holding people without trial is fundamentally un-American.

Evidently conservatism has no view at all about upholding the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution:

No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law [...].

Nor the Sixth Amendment:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial...

The proponent of this legislation, Benjamin Wittes, a faux-liberal pundit now lodged at Brookings, has been pushing all manner of national security 'reforms' that undercut fundamental American liberties. Wittes wants to see a parallel system of justice created, 'national security courts', to make it easier to convict people by stripping away rights and due process protections.

His current proposal, what purports to be a draft of legislation to create a 'system' of 'preventive detention' (i.e. indefinite imprisonment without trial), tries to help Barack Obama dig himself out of the ditch he drove into with his pronouncement last month that he wishes to have the power to pick and choose from a variety of courts and military tribunals in which to put certain terrorism suspects on trial. The venue will be chosen to favor conviction, and if conviction is insufficiently certain then any prisoner deemed dangerous will continue to be held without trial indefinitely. In other words, the Obama proposal is to create a specious facsimile of due process for terrorism suspects.

Wittes is happy to pitch in to help foist a law for imprisonment without trial upon the US because, as he helpfully explained to NPR, it's effectively what George W. Bush had been doing as president.

Those concerns lead many to ask why Wittes is pushing for indefinite detention at all. We already have it, he says. Detainees have been held at Guantanamo for years. Thousands more are imprisoned in Afghanistan. The Supreme Court has said the United States can detain some terrorists for the duration of hostilities against al-Qaida and the Taliban. So, Wittes says, "There's no question that we're detaining people outside of the criminal justice system. The question is what the rules are for that detention and who makes those rules."

Next month, perhaps Wittes will also get around to drafting helpful legislation to legalize the forms of torture that the Bush administration inflicted on terrorist suspects.

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[1]
Brookings has a number of pieces related to Witte and his co-author, Colleen Peppard. E.g.,

Witte & Peppard, Designing Detention: A Model Law for Terrorist Incapacitation
http://www.brookings.edu/pa...

Witte, Legislating the War on Terror An Agenda for Reform
http://www.brookings.edu/pr...

Posted by shirah at Saturday, June 27, 2009 07:21:02

[2]
Given the flexibility and creative tools developed in our criminal justice system over the centuries, it's hard to understand why we can't provide fair trials. Generalities are just not sufficient.

We need to demand specific information as to exactly why each individual "cannot be tried".

And we need to get the legion of "hard headed" liberals who are going with a style of adopting a lot of the thinking of the Right as evidence of their intellect, to rethink their understanding of America's founding values.

Posted by shirah at Saturday, June 27, 2009 07:24:26

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We can provide fair trials. The problem is that we cannot assure convictions with fair trials. The administration doesn't want to release, or be seen to release, suspects who are or can be portrayed as 'scary'.

The problem is that the 'evidence' against many suspects wouldn't hold up in court. Just the opposite, such trials would inevitably highlight the torture that's been inflicted to obtain the 'evidence'.

But rather than just admit that there are repercussions for torturing people - such as ruining the prosecution of criminals, or heaven help us, prosecuting the torturers - the Obama administration wants to behave as if torture were a consequence-free activity.

Posted by smintheus at Saturday, June 27, 2009 09:41:33

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As for Wittes, one of the most striking things is that he appears to have no legal training though he writes all the time on law and is proposing massive changes to our Constitutional foundations.

In other words, he's another one of the faux 'experts' at Brookings. I've written in the past about Michael O'Hanlon, who decided in the '90s that he was an expert on the far east, and after 2001 an expert on the middle east and national security - though he has no training in any of those areas and his only foreign language is French. I have a sneaking suspicion that everyone at Brookings is a phony.

Posted by smintheus at Saturday, June 27, 2009 09:53:10

[5]
I meant to note that Wittes' formal training consists only of an undergraduate degree from Oberlin College, according to his Brookings' bio.

Posted by smintheus at Saturday, June 27, 2009 09:55:23

[6]
One troubling aspect of Witte's reasoning is that it presumes the further fragmentation of our legal system. For example, the idea behind Drug Courts is fine except that these courts are doing what should have been done under traditional procedures - but we don't have the judicial positions or staff assistance to do it. Secondly, had the previous administration used our traditional processes and not resorted to extra-legal excesses apparently copied from scripted TV shows, some of the more dangerous prisoners we have incarcerated would no doubt spend their remaining years in such places as ABX-Florence.

Yes, the Obama Administration has a very real problem; we have a few people detained so radicalized that we really can't turn them loose, and no one else is going to take them. Nor, really, should they have to. We are the ones who made the hash of our judicial system such that we cannot use our courts because of the well tainted evidence.

This ought to remind us of Jefferson's remark about holding on to the wolf's ears - not being able to hold on and terrified to let go.

Posted by Desert Beacon at Saturday, June 27, 2009 14:31:57

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Obama does know about this law and procedure, plus a thing or two about the Constitution. I can't figure out why he is going along with this position.

We are long overdue for an airing of the activities of recent years.

Posted by shirah at Sunday, June 28, 2009 15:35:31

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